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On perseverance (Also: do not ever buy these windows.)

When Mr. FG and I bought our house, the windows were in unusable shape.   They were so bad, a good percentage of them wouldn’t even shut.

So, we got an allowance from the seller to replace the windows.   We hired a guy who put in windows that came with a lifetime warranty (sounds good, right??)

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The windows were originally made by Napco, but Napco has since gone out of business.

(whomp, whomp)

Fortunately, a company called PlyGem picked up all of Napco’s warranty business.

So, when the seal failed on a window sash a year and a half ago, I was able to get a replacement.

At the same time I ordered the replacement glass panel, I let them know that the lock on a window in the bathroom had rusted and broken

They sent me a new one along with the glass panel, but it turned out to be just slightly different.

plygem napco window lock replacement

I let my customer service rep know, sent her a photo, and she said she’d have her team figure something out.   That’s where things started to go really south.

Weeks and months would go by and I would call and email with no response.   When I finally did hear from her, she kept saying they were, “working on a solution”.

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Finally this year, I got sick of it and managed to snag a new representative, who had the brilliant idea of just sending me a new window.

Except, the one she sent me six weeks later was wrong.   In fact, the window wouldn’t fit anywhere in my house at all.

And it didn’t have the obscured glass, which is important because this window is in the shower.

(Yeah. Kind of a home design fail.)

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But after more phone calls (and another six week wait), they finally shipped me the right window.

Sort of.

The top panel came as a complete unit, while they sent me only the glass part of the lower sash.

I thought this wasn’t going to work, but I actually was able to make the locks function properly by replacing just the top sash.

 

I am awfully relieved, because I was really not looking forward to more phone calls with PlyGem.

I’m so disappointed in them, not only because of the incompetence of the warranty team and the total lack of follow-up on their part (the customer should not have to call back repeatedly in order to get service!) but because the manner of the reps is so off-putting.

If I sent someone the wrong window or didn’t get back to them for months, I would feel like a profuse apology was in order.   Somehow, though, no matter how polite and kind I am, the reps behave as though it’s a huge inconvenience even to speak with me, as though they can barely stand it.

(I poked around online and apparently my experience is typical on all fronts.)

So.

I’ve managed to get replacements to fix my window issues (that’s the upside!), but it has been an enormous headache, and I would never, ever buy these windows again.

Because of PlyGem’s errors, I now have several window sashes that I can’t use, and I’m not sure anyone else can use them either since they have no frames.

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(the sashes come in a huge box with sprayed-on foam padding)

My plan is to find someone who installs these windows to see if perhaps they can use them.   If not, I’m not sure what I can possibly do with them, but I am not going to stress about it because this is not my fault.

Lifetime warranties are sometimes not all they’re cracked up to be, you know?

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Janine B

Thursday 10th of March 2022

Hi, I too have Napco windows that are failing. I just got off the phone with ply gem and they said they did not buy Napco windows just siding. Wondering if you have a more specific point of contact at ply gem that I could try. Thanks

Kristen

Saturday 12th of March 2022

I'm sorry-I don't have any fresh information outside of what I put into this post. So sorry to hear you are having the same problem as I did!

Diane C

Tuesday 13th of January 2015

Darn it! My touchpad is so sensitive that this published before I checked the "Notify" box. This comment is just so I can follow any replies. Thanks!

Diane C

Tuesday 13th of January 2015

Oh, this topic is near to my heart at the moment. I have a rental/eventual retirement home near Palm Springs, CA. I always have the windows professionally cleaned between tenants. The last tenant complained that the windows didn't sparkle and that I'd lied about having them cleaned. He complained so charmingly about so many things that I eventually just began to tune him out. When he moved out, we decided to re-paint the exterior for the first time since it was built. In doing so, we discovered that nearly every dual-pane, low-e window has failed in the eleven years since the house was constructed, hence the clouding that prevented the windows from "sparkling". I checked around and found that the problems with these windows are legion. Any warranty work was done at such high labor rates that it cost more than to install new windows on your own. Oh, and the warranty ended a year ago. We're resigned to the fact that we will have to pay to replace them, but we're wondering what works best in a very hot, often windy climate. Are there any readers out there who live in similar climates who have windows that have stood the test of time?

Kristen

Tuesday 13th of January 2015

Oh wow! That makes me feel like I'm awfully lucky that only ONE of mine has failed.

Charlotte

Tuesday 13th of January 2015

You could build an adorable tiny greenhouse with them. Like this one I saw on Pinterest: http://thebrambleberrycottage.blogspot.com/2010/12/outdoor-whites.html

Kristen

Tuesday 13th of January 2015

That is really cute! Does it serve a purpose, or is it just decorative?

Donna Day

Monday 12th of January 2015

Reading all comments and situations. I've learned a lot, ladies, thank you. I need windows and will replace what I need a few at a time from Pella or Anderson. They have been in business a long time and while really too expensive for me, one or two at a time might be doable.

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