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Q&A | pan math, freezing foods, & much more

Hi Kristen,
I am a long time reader (10 ish years), but hardly ever comment.  I have two questions for you.

For dinner one night this past week you made The Pioneer Woman’s French toast casserole.

French toast casserole

You said that you used an 8×8 pan, but the recipe calls for. 9×13 pan. Did you adjust the quantity of the ingredients that you used? I’m looking to do the same thing for tomorrow’s dinner (Sunday), to use up some cinnamon raisin bagels, and am wondering if I should. The smaller pan size would only require about 60% of the recipe of the larger pan.

Also, regarding health insurance, are you familiar with faith based plans? I do not subscribe to one, but friends of mine – who happen to live close to you – have been enrolled in one for 15 years or more. More recently, I’ve seen ads for them on T.V. (I live in upstate NY). I don’t know the specifics, but my friend felt it matched their values better, and was/is affordable for their family of nine. Every time you mention (being thankful for but) not loving your current health care, I wonder if you know about these faith based medical insurance plans.

-SH

Aww, thank you for hanging here for 10 years! I am honored. 🙂

I know I am a day late for your dinner question (so sorry), but when I use an 8×8 pan for the French toast, I just halve the French toast recipe.

I recognize that an 8×8 pan (64 square inches) is not exactly half of a 9×13 pan (9×13 = 117, and 117/2 = 58.5) but it’s definitely close enough for something like baked French toast!

French toast casserole.

And honestly, I wouldn’t even have qualms about using an 8×8 pan for half of a 9×13 brownie recipe, or some other similar baked good.

I’ve also used my rectangle pan, which is 9×7.25, and that comes out to 65.25 square inches, which is super close to being half of a 9×13.

Pioneer Woman's overnight French toast

For medical insurance:

I did consider a cost-sharing type of medical plan (many content creators, like podcasters and bloggers, choose them), but for clinicals at school, I am required to have actual, factual health insurance.

And that’s usually a requirement coming directly from the hospitals where we do rotations.

Kristen in nursing school scrubs.

nursing school clinicals come with a lot of rules!

Sooo, I am stuck having to get real health insurance.

But, I graduate in May! And then I can work enough to qualify for health insurance at my hospital (which hopefully will be better than what I’ve got going on right now).

Can I cube raw potatoes and throw them in the freezer for stuff like soups and stews? What is the consistency of the potatoes like once I defrost for cooking? Can I also use them to make roasted potatoes in a 400-degree oven? Same for carrots. Can I freeze celery? Any help would be much appreciated.

-Linda

This one was from the comments in a recent post, and Kristin from Going Country did a good job of answering it (the down and dirty is that frozen raw potatoes are rather mushy and gross once you thaw them and try to cook them.)

fried eggs and potatoes.

But I wanted to add a tiny bit of the science behind freezing produce.

As you all know, water expands when it’s frozen. And also as you all know, plants (and that includes produce!) have cell walls that help provide structure to the produce.

Frozen strawberries on a metal baking sheet.

When we freeze produce, the water inside the cells expands and forms crystals, and that bursts the cell walls. So then when the produce is thawed and the water melts, we are left with destroyed cell walls, which is why the thawed produce looks rather deflated overall.

The more water the produce has, the more pronounced this effect is.

(One can imagine how squishy thawed watermelon would be!)

peaches prepped for home freezing

Anyway, the reason I mention this is that removing some of the water from a vegetable can help it to freeze better. For example, sauteed mushrooms and celery are much better when frozen and thawed because you’ve removed some of the water from those cell walls.

And this is part of the reason that partially or fully-cooked produce does better in the freezer.

frozen mashed sweet potatoes

frozen mashed sweet potatoes

One other relevant thing: commercial producers flash freeze their products, a process that produces smaller (and fewer) ice crystals. We can’t really replicate that process at home!

frozen fruit aldi

A question I have for you guys: do any of you know why mangoes and peaches retain so much of their texture when frozen? Peaches in particular are very juicy so I am stumped as to why they don’t appear to suffer much from the burst cell wall problem.

A rabbit hole I went down regarding percentages of water in various fruits:

  • watermelon: 92%
  • peach: 89%
  • pineapple: 86%
  • mango: 81%
  • banana: 75%

Based on this comparison, it makes sense that mangoes fare pretty well in the freezer, but the peaches still stump me.

frozen bananas

The googling I did tells me that there’s some variance in the cell wall structure in fruits, with varying amounts of pectin, so maybe some cell walls are just more resistant to destruction in the freezer!

(A P.S. to this question: if you can’t find the answer to, “Can I freeze this food?”, it’s a good time to apply my “Try it and see!” method, with a small sample.)

(A second P.S.: another reason that par-cooking/blanching produce before freezing helps: it slows down enzymes that would otherwise be working to degrade the food.)

1. Why is it forbidden to share med cards?
2. Many people say they learned English by watching teevee or listening to the radio. Have you thought about trying that to amp up your vocabulary, familiarity with the rhythms, and pronunciations? Sounds super frustrating, but you could try it in small doses. If you hate it, just turn it off.

-Jana

Med cards are assigned to us in school; they’re basically empty templates for us to fill out about a medication. The filling-out process is part of the learning, so it’s considered cheating to share your info with another student.

med card.

(For the record, I hate doing med cards and I don’t find them that helpful! I personally do better learning about a drug in combination with learning about a disease.)

And, your language suggestion is a good one! But I rarely watch TV.

However, after you left this comment, I did put on a Peppa Pig YouTube video in Spanish. Embarrassingly enough, I had to put even that on 0.75 playback speed to keep up. Ha.

peppa pig screenshot in spanish.

I will keep trying!

Your Duolingo streak is impressive. Do you use the free or paid version?

-Tammy

I have the paid version and the reason is: I forgot to cancel after a free trial this summer. Whoops!

duolingo screenshot.

But I will say, the app is way less annoying to use now that there are no ads (some of them were so long in between lessons), so I am not super mad at myself for this mistake.

I consider it a small accidental indulgence. 😉

Alrighty, y’all! I think the main topic for discussion today will be: freezing produce.

But as always, any topic in the post is fair game. Have at it!

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Andrea G

Monday 16th of December 2024

Iโ€™m on day 5 of my DuoLingo streak to learn German!

I also just tried a program called Pimsleur. My library has several audiobooks for learning languages through this method, where a narrator takes you through common conversations and has you repeat the foreign language phrases. Thereโ€™s supposedly some science around when you are reminded of phrases you learned earlier in the program to retain them.

However, I am a visual learner, so not being able to see the words on the page meant I promptly forgot the subtle difference in conjugating โ€œI understandโ€ and โ€œyou understandโ€. But maybe anyone who enjoys audiobooks and listening to textbooks (like Kristen!) would benefit!

Victoria

Monday 16th of December 2024

Iโ€™ve seen people recommend childrenโ€™s books to learn a language. Also, label stuff in the house with the Spanish word and say it out loud every time you use/see that thing.

I know US insurance companies are bad but faith based insurance sounds terrifying to me. I imagine it being a lot more personal and intrusive and even more open to interpretation of what is considered a necessary medical procedure.

Robin

Monday 16th of December 2024

The cadence and conversational speed that is typical in Colombia can work really well for Spanish language learners! For some shows you can choose the dubbing dialect and I highly recommend changing it to Colombia or Central America. When I was in college, I studied abroad in Spain; most siestas, my host sister and I would watch The Simpsons dubbed in Spanish. I canโ€™t attribute any particular success to this, but I did find that it was a non-stressful way to listen to sustained dialogue and conversation in Spanish.

Kaitlin

Monday 16th of December 2024

It makes sense that you had to slow Peppa the Pig down. One of the things Iโ€™ve learned in my masters in literacy is that itโ€™s much harder to acquire and understand a foreign language when we hear it electronically. Not that itโ€™s impossibleโ€ฆitโ€™s just not the same as interacting in person.

We have a Spanish immersion program where I work, and I canโ€™t speak very much at all, but I know how to tell kids to walk in the hallways instead of run and how to line up to walk through the hallsโ€”phrases that are repeated ad nauseum all year long!

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